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Interested in the below Products? For LOCAL and INTERNATIONAL DISTRIBUTION & AGENCY please contact swifjames@yahoo.com

WE HAVE MOVED, SMR Swiftlet Farming Equipments & Gadgets

WE HAVE MOVED, SMR Swiftlet Farming Equipments & Gadgets
59 Jalan Tabla 33/21, Shah Alam Technology Park 40400 Shah Alam Selangor, Malaysia.Tel 012.3173811 Business Hour: By Appointment. 只限预约。

THE FIRST AMPLIFIER BUILT FOR SWIFTLET FARM

THE FIRST AMPLIFIER BUILT FOR SWIFTLET FARM

THE NEW 3RD GENERATION LOVE POTION 新的第3代Love Potion

THE NEW 3RD GENERATION LOVE POTION  新的第3代Love Potion
More Powerful Than Before. Leading In Hormone Aroma 比以前更加強大。在激素香氣中領先.

Love Potion and Swiftlet Farming Talk (Seminar) in Vietnam Hội thảo diễn đàn tại Việt Nam

Love Potion and Swiftlet Farming Talk (Seminar) in Vietnam Hội thảo diễn đàn tại Việt Nam
Explaining how to use Love Potion effectively to increase Nests & Birds Population to user of Love Potion

SWIFTLET FARMING-LOVE POTION - ENHANCED HORMONE - 万燕牌子荷尔蒙-Powerful & Effective

SWIFTLET FARMING-LOVE POTION - ENHANCED HORMONE - 万燕牌子荷尔蒙-Powerful & Effective
Want your new farm to have many birds to stay and to build nests in the shortest period of time.Use LOVE POTION. It has the odor ( hormone) that makes birds get into mating mood.It also helps to increase birds population of old farm.For those farms that the numbers of nests has not increased the Love Potion would help. It is so powerful that even without the Nesting Planks the Swiftlets still eager to stay and make nests. The above picture shows most birds are in pair. It indicates that most are in mating mood. Interested email swifjames@yahoo.com. TESTED & PROVEN! Only limited quantity available. 要您的新燕屋農場有許多燕子停留和修造窝在最短的时期。用Love Potion。 它的氣味(激素)能令燕子有交配的心情。它也幫助增加旧的燕屋農場增加燕子群。能為那些燕窝数量未增加的燕屋農場也能使用Love Potion来幫助增加。 是很有強力的甚而沒有板條燕子也很熱切的停留和做窝。 上面的圖片展示多数燕子是一對一對的。 它表明多數的燕子是有交配的心情。 感興趣的请发電子郵件swifjames@yahoo.com。 已被測試和被证明的! 存货有限。For INTERNATIONAL DISTRIBUTION & ANGENCY Please contact : swifjames@yahoo.com

SWIFTLET FARMING -NEW LOVE POTION NOW AVAILABLE! 万燕牌子荷尔蒙现在有出售!

SWIFTLET FARMING -NEW LOVE POTION NOW AVAILABLE! 万燕牌子荷尔蒙现在有出售!
The New Packing Swiftlet farming Love Potion is in 2 liter bottle with security sealed sticker at the cap. The New bottle is specially designed for convenience and easy use with Sprayer Gun. Remove cap and lock on Sprayer Gun and it’s ready to use.No hassle of pouring into Spray Pump and it saves money, you don’t need to buy Spray Pump. The purchase of every 2 bottles comes with a free industry grade powerful Sprayer Gun that could spray up to a distance of 10-12 ft. Designed to reach the ceiling, planks, entrance hole, inter-hole and the high roving area.To get the New Love Potion please contact James: 012-3173811 or email: swifjames@yahoo.com 新Love Potion的包裝是一個2公升瓶,有安全密封的貼紙在瓶蓋上。 它比早先的包裝更多500ml。 (如果安全密封是破壞,千萬不要購買) 。2公升瓶是特地為方便和容易使用而设计的,它有噴霧槍。除去瓶蓋,然後鎖上噴霧槍就可以立即使用。 再也不必麻煩的把Love Potion倒入其他浪花泵浦,而且它也不浪費金錢,您不需要再買一個浪花泵浦。 凡購買2瓶,就送一個工業級有強力的噴霧槍。這個噴霧槍可以噴洒到距離10-12英尺的地方。 它是特地為噴到天花板、板條、入口孔、互連孔和高的環繞區而設計的。要買到新的Love Potion,請与James斯联系: 012-3173811或電子郵件:For INTERNATIONAL DISTRIBUTION & ANGENCY Please contact : swifjames@yahoo.com

TECHNICAL ASPECT OF SWIFTLET FARMING SEMINAR 2019

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Swiflet Farm Using Love Potion together with Gs-9/Hypno-5

SWIFTLET FARMING-LOVE POTION "Trusted & Proven" (万燕牌子荷尔蒙)

SWIFTLET FARMING-LOVE POTION "Trusted & Proven" (万燕牌子荷尔蒙)
A Powerful Hormone Aroma specially formulated to increase birds’ population and nests growth for New and Old Swiftlet farms. The scent helps to retain young birds & attract them stay and make nests. Tested and Proven since 2008. Trusted and used by Swiftlet farms throughout South East Asia. Use immediately after every harvest. Effectively repels unfavorable smell in Bh. Invented by Swiftlet farmer for Swiftlet farms. Packing: 2ltr. Free Spray gun for every purchase of 2 bottles. Call: 012-3173811. 有強力的荷爾蒙芳香特別地為新和舊的燕屋農場增加燕子的群和燕窩的成長而啓發的。 它的氣味幫助保留小的燕子和 吸引它們逗留並且做燕窩。自2008年以來就已被測試和证明。 被東南亞各地的燕屋農場信賴和使用。 在每個收穫之後的立刻使用。 有效的排斥在燕屋農場裏不被喜愛的氣味。由養燕人爲養燕人發明的。 包裝:2ltr. 凡買2瓶就送一個噴霧槍。 打電話: 012-3173811.

从Love Potion 的用户

亲爱的James,
今天早上我從運輸者受到了5箱的Love Potion。 我是非常擔心Love Potion没货的。
谢谢您保證我的订单在週末之前到達。 我的工人需要在收穫以後使用它的。
在用Love Potion以后燕窝增加了。 我未曾看过這樣巨大的增加在燕窝的公斤量。
當您再回來太平时請打电话给我。 我要请您吃晚餐,並且进一步談論關於燕窝出口和贸易。
谢谢。
Y.先.......... ..... ......
燕窝處理和貿易商 .

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HOW TO USE LOVE POTION

1) Spray on planks turn Spray nozzle to MIST SPRAY.1-3 burst is good enough for planks especially at the corner boards. / 噴灑在木板上,把噴灑頭鑽成噴霧,按1-3 次就夠了,特別是在壁角板上.


2) Spraying on wall 1-2 ft below nesting planks turn Spray nozzle to sharp spray. Spray zigzag lines as you walk. Let the it drips from the walls. Spray at Roving area, Nesting area, Inter-holes, entrance holes, (80% on walls 20% on Planks) / 噴灑在牆壁上,在木板1-2尺之下,把噴灑頭鑽成噴尖。一直走一直噴。讓它慢慢滴下來。也噴在環繞區,造窩區,互聯洞,入口洞,(80%噴在牆壁,20%噴在木板)
3) Spray after each harvest or after your have entered the farm. 在在每次收穫之後噴或者每一次您進入燕屋農場之後


4) Pour into Humidifier (chicken coop type) 也可以倒入噴霧機 (雞寮性)


5) If you can’t finish 1 bottle for 1 floor it means you have not sprayed enough.1 bottle good for 1400sf 如果您在一層樓用不完一瓶那就是說您噴的不夠。一瓶是足夠1400方尺


6) Shake bottle well before use. 把瓶子搖均勻才用


7)DO NOT MIX WATER (do not dilute) 不必參水 (不可以彫稀)


8)Use once every 3 weeks. 每三的星期用一次

SWIFTLET FARM that Uses LOVE POTION

New Hypnotic Sound " Gezillion Star" Interested to have this Sound Call 012-3173811

SWIFTLET FARM USING EXTERNAL SOUND-Gezillion Star 8

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為什麼您的燕屋農場不成功的?
您是否等待了太久,但是燕子和燕窝还是很少?
燕屋設計、屋内环境、aroma、光度、飛行道, 间接等等是否正確?
讓我帮助和勸告您如何解決您的問題, 成为一个完美和燕子喜歡的燕屋農場。 我將教您如何解決問題和改正差錯。因此,今后當您碰见任何燕屋農場問題时,您將會解決它。
联络我―012.3173811


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Thursday, April 28, 2011

LOVE POTION的新包裝 " 最有強力的芳香荷爾蒙"現在有出售.


(凡買2瓶Love Potion就可以得到一個免費的噴霧槍)


(噴霧槍可以直接地鎖在瓶子然後使用。 方便,快速和容易使用)


(安全密封的貼紙在瓶蓋上)


從新被包裝的知名有強力的芳香Love Potion早就該做了。 我們去年早就想要發射新的包裝,但是就藏者到現在,因為大多數的用戶更喜歡PEP的裝瓶,他們覺得它是家裏自創的並且有它的獨特性。


然而我們也看到有需要來改變Love Potion的包裝來保護用戶免受被欺詐,避免混亂和勸阻模仿。



Love Potion是有強力的觸發並且激活燕子神經的激素芳香,以便它們进入交配的心情。


2008年由我發明的,最初用于在好朋友之中的幾個燕屋農場。 因爲要求和需求增加了,我們决定讓所有的燕屋農場都可以得到。


自從到現在,許多馬來西亞的燕屋農場,和有燕屋農場的國家如東南亞各國都有使用。


由於它有強的能力可以增加燕子的數量和燕窩的成長在短的时期,有許多新,舊和成功的燕屋農場都經常使用它。


由于它的知名度,許多人嘗試了仿效並且生產了假的Love Potion。一些甚而设法聯繫他們的產品與Love Potion一起,就是Love Potion的綠色,甚至也有一樣的取名(魔藥),但是所有的產品都無法匹配Love Potion的有效率。


新Love Potion的包裝是一個2公升瓶,有安全密封的貼紙在瓶蓋上。 它比早先的包裝更多500ml。 (如果安全密封是破壞,千萬不要購買) 。


2公升瓶是特地為方便和容易使用而设计的,它有噴霧槍。除去瓶蓋,然後鎖上噴霧槍就可以立即使用。


再也不必麻煩的把Love Potion倒入其他浪花泵浦,而且它也不浪費金錢,您不需要再買一個浪花泵浦。 凡購買2瓶,就送一個工業級有強力的噴霧槍。


這個噴霧槍可以噴洒到距離10-12英尺的地方。 它是特地為噴到天花板、板條、入口孔、互連孔和高的環繞區而設計的。


要買到新的Love Potion,請与James斯联系: 012-3173811或電子郵件: swifjames@yahoo.com


今天就嘗試,燕子將愛死您因為您使用它,並且您會更愛自己因爲您做了不同的東西!


大家有的好燕屋農場!

THE NEW PACKING OF LOVE POTION " Powerful Aroma Hormone" AVAILABLE NOW.

( Free Spray Gun with every purchase of 2 bottles Love Potion)



( Spray Gun can be locked on to bottle and use directly. Convenience, fast and easy to use)


( Security Sealed sticker at the cap)



The repackaging of the well known Powerful Aroma Love Potion has been long overdue. We wanted to launch the new packing last year but holding it back because most of our users prefer the PEP bottling as they perceived it as homemade and has its originality.


Nevertheless we see that there is a need to change the packaging to protect Love potion’s users from being cheated, to avoid confusion and discourage imitation.


Love Potion is a powerful Hormone aroma that triggers and activates the nerves of the Swiftlet so that there would go into mating mood.


Invented by me in 2008 and initially was used in few Bhs among close friends. As the request and demand became more we decided to make it available to all Swiftlet farms.


Ever since then it’s being used by many Swiftlet farms in Malaysian and countries of South East Asia that are into Swiftlet farming.


Because of its powerful ability to push up birds’ population and nests growth in a short period of time therefore many new, old and successful Swiftlet farms are using it on a regular basis.


Due to its popularity many people had tried to imitated and produce the fake Love Potion. Some even trying to associate their products with the Love Potion color which is green or even the name itself (“Potion”) but all of them failed to match the effectiveness of Love potion.


The New Packing of Love Potion comes in a 2 liter bottle with a security sealed sticker at the cap. It is 500ml more than the previous packing. (Do not purchase if the security seal is broken)


The 2ltr bottle is specially designed for convenience and easy use with the Sprayer Gun. Remove the cap and lock on the Sprayer Gun and it’s ready to use.


No more hassle of pouring into Spray Pump and it saves money, you don’t need to buy Spray Pump. The purchase of every 2 bottles comes with a free industry graded powerful Sprayer Gun.


The Sprayer Gun could spray up to a distance of 10-12 ft. It’s designed to reach the ceiling, planks, entrance hole, inter-hole and the high roving area.


To get the New Love Potion please contact James: 012-3173811 or email: swifjames@yahoo.com.


Try one today the birds would Love you for using it and you would love yourself for making the different!


Good Swiftlet Farming All
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Wednesday, April 27, 2011

在入口洞低部的高音揚聲器



以上的照片是一個在Kelantan很成功的燕屋農場。 這個燕屋農場採取了安裝外在高音揚聲器在底下的技術,這個是我在早前寫的一編文章「因該在那裏安裝外在高音揚聲器」。 這個燕屋農場使用2個外在高音揚聲器在底部 (Motorola Pz-16),並且在上面的是2個 Audax。 在底部的Pz-16是主要的吸引,而不是在上面的Audax。 許多人可能沒有注意到這一點,雖然4個高音揚聲器一起運用。


難怪這個燕屋農場吸引了那麽多的燕子。 它不是運氣或剛好的。 我所寫的一切已經被許多燕屋農場成功的實踐了。 它也是許多人不想教的技術。 一些人也許在很久已經實踐了它,但是卻不知道他們在正確的道路上。


我总是告诉我的讀者觀察和學習。 別只是看盤旋在那成功燕屋農場的那些燕子,不要敬佩他們有多少燕子或燕巢,也不需要覺得他們有多么的幸運。 敬佩幫不了您什麽。 仔細的看,然後查尋額外的線索,那裡全部都是您可以學會的。 雖然您不可能有機會進入這些燕屋農場的裡面,但是至少從外面它顯示並且可以教會您某些事。


有能力的吸引燕子进入燕屋農場是好像有好的屋内環境一样重要。 如果燕子不來和不飛进燕屋農場,無論屋内環境是那麽的好,也是無用的。


但是,如果這是我的燕屋農場我會拿掉那個电灯泡在入口。 我就是不相信在燕屋農場的外面有電燈泡的技術。如果您要您可以這樣做,但就不是我。


大家有好的燕屋農場!


最好是大家分享!

建築獨立燕屋農場在吉蘭丹



幾天前我去了吉蘭丹見W先生,我的一個讀者和將是一個獨立燕屋農場的主人。 他僱用我修建20x 80, 3層樓的獨立燕屋農場。


吉蘭丹是其中一個非常有燕屋農場潛能的地方,因爲它有大量的綠色、稻田、河流等等的自然環境。 工业发展仍然是缺乏在後邊的如果与其他州比较,但是這就是它的好處,對燕屋農場而言。



通常燕屋主尋找沒有工業汙染的地方。 有少量工業活動的區域是更加受歡迎的。 有工廠發出化工氣體的區域是應該避免的,因為燕子對化工氣體是非常敏感的。 因此,因為沒有許多工業活動在吉蘭丹這裡,有燕屋農場在這裡是有它的好處的。 雖然有許多燕屋農場在這里,並且有更多新的燕屋農場被開發,但是燕屋農場數量与绿地的比例還是很低的,如果与其他州比较。 因此,相比在吉蘭丹的燕屋農場的成功率與其他州的比較是高,而且也不驚訝的。


其次,高的成功率也是如何吉蘭丹人修造他們的燕屋農場方式的結果。 看起來他們真正地發很多心思在燕屋農場裏熱的因素。 我想他們真正地瞭解屋内環境的重要性。 在這里,屋頂的防熱材料是必備的當务之急。 如果不是全部的燕屋農場,至少有80%的燕屋農場在這裡有双层的屋頂。 如果您到南部或西部,您卻看不見這樣的實踐,或者只有僅僅幾間的燕屋農場。 這就是爲什麽我總是强调牆壁和屋頂的防熱材料的重要性。


這閒燕屋農場的地點是在T.Merah,差不多1小時的車程從 K.B.。 這個獨立燕屋農場是離一條小河不遠和被很多的植物圍繞。 這裡有幾閒巨大的伐木公司在周围,並且,當下雨天,燕子會飛入這個區域來食取躲在伐木的昆蟲。 這是燕子的另外一個食物地方。


在這裡已經有幾個獨立的燕屋農場,多數是3層樓的。 一些是蠻新的,並且,和平常一样這是非常富有挑戰性。


在參觀了地點之后,我們去了锯木厂查看一下板條。 雖然在這里有大量的木材,但是要找黑褐色的Meranti木卻在吉蘭丹找不到。難怪許多在吉蘭丹和Terengganu的燕屋農場經常直接地從我定购他們的板條。 锯木厂的老闆声称要得到好的木材在吉蘭丹是很难的,並且多数的燕屋主沒辦法才使用比較便宜的Meranti。 我告訴他,他們可能以後會有真菌的风险在板條上,他也同意。


有了這樣的環境,大量的綠色、山和河流,導致高的湿度,但是仍然多数的燕屋農場使用非KD低級的板條。 我想知道這是价格的因素或者無知的因素。 我想這裡只有燕屋主有它的答復。


將繼續.................


大家有好的燕屋農場!。

THE BOTTOM TWEETERS AT ENTRANCE-HOLE




The above picture is one of the successful Bh in Kelantan. This Bh is adopting the Bottom External Tweeters technique which I have written in my earlier article “Where to Fix the external Tweeters”. This Bh uses 2 external tweeters at the bottom (Motorola Pz-16) and the above are 2 Audax. The Pz-16 at the bottom is the major attractor not the Audax at the top. Many may not have noticed this though 4 tweeters work together.


No wonder this Bh is attracting lots of birds. It is not luck or coincident. What I had written is being practiced by many successful Bhs. It is a technique which many wouldn’t want to teach. Some may have been practicing it for long time without knowing that they are in the right path.


I always tell my readers observe and learn. Don’t just look at those birds circling at those successful Bhs and admire how many birds or nests they have and how lucky the owners are. Admiring doesn’t help you. Look and search for the extra clues all are out there for you to learn. Though you may not have the opportunity to go inside these Bhs but at least from outside it shows and teaches you something.


The Ability to attract birds to enter the Bhs is as important as having a good macro. If the birds don’t come and don’t fly into the Bh no matter how good the macro is, it’s useless.


But if this is my Bh I would exclude the light bulb at the entrance. I just don’t buy the technique of fixing a light bulb outside the Bh. You could do that if you want, not me.


Good Swiftlet farming All!. The Best is To SHARE!.

Building Standalone in Kelantan

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I was in Kelantan few days ago to meet up with Mr. W, one of my readers and owner of a soon to be Standalone. He had engaged me to construct a 20x 80, 3 storey Stanalone.



Kelantan is one of the most potential places for Swiftlet farming due it natural environment which has plenty of greens, padi fields, rivers, etc. The industrial development is still lack behind compared to other state but this is an advantage as far as Swiftlet farming is concerned.



Generally Swiftlet farmers look for places that have no industrial pollution. Areas that have low industrial activities are preferred. Areas that have factories that release chemical gases should be avoid as Swiftlets are very sensitive to the chemical smell. Since there are not many industrial activities in Kelantan therefore having a Bh here would have it advantages. Though there are many Bhs here and more are coming up but the ratio of the number of Bh to the green area is still low compared to other state. Therefore it is not surprised the successful rate of Bh in Kelantan is much higher than other state.



Secondly the high successful rate is also the result of the way the Kelatanese built their Bhs. It seemed that they really pay lots of attentions to the heat factors of Bh. I guess they do really understand the importance of macro. Here the roof insulation is a must. If not all at least 80% of the bhs here have double layer roof. If you travel down South or to the West you don’t see this practice perhaps only a handful of Bhs do. That is why I always stressed the importance of wall and roof insulation.



The location of the Bh is at T.Merah which is about an hour drive fron K.B. The standalone is not far from a river and surrounding with good vegetation. There were few huge logging companies around here and when it rains swiftlets storm this area for insects which hide at the logs. This is another food ground for Swiftlets.



There were few existing Stanalones here most are 3 storey. Some are quite new and as usually it will be very challenging.



After visiting the site we went to a Saw mill to have a look at the Nesting plank. Though there are plenty of timbers here but the Dark Brown Meranti which sought after by many are not available in Kelantan. This doesn’t surprise me as many Bhs from Kelantan and Terengganu often order their planks directly from me. The owner of the saw mill claimed that it is hard to get such wood in Kelantan and most Bh owners would settle for the cheaper Meranti. I told him they would have the risk of fungus on planks in future and he agreed.



With such environment of green, mountains and rivers which causes an atmosphere of high humidity and yet most Bhs use non KD low graded planks. I wonder is it the price factor or ignorance factor. I guess only the Bh owners here have the answer.



To be continued……………..



Good Swiftlet Farming All!.



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Friday, April 22, 2011

因該在那裏安裝外在高音揚聲器?


有許多方式來安裝外部的高音揚聲器在入口孔,但是那一個是最佳的和最有效方來誘惑那些燕子进入燕屋農場特别是新的燕屋農場 ?


外部的高音揚聲器的目的是叫從遠方的燕子引導它們进入燕屋農場。 一旦燕子是在入口孔的附近,它們將調查聲音的來源。 明显地,從這些高音揚聲器播出來的外聲必須是有足夠的吸引力,比如它的清晰,它高底的聲音等等。 否則燕子是不會想到那高音揚聲器的附近。 一些也許會飛到它的附近行,但是卻轉回頭並且可能不再回來。


高音揚聲器的正確設施對於新的燕屋農場的成功是很重要的。 您是否有想過,爲什麽外聲被開了之後,燕子只是飞到離入口孔不遠的地方,有些燕子就飛行接近高音揚聲器,但是沒有进入燕屋農場,並且許多以后沒有返回。 它有兩個可能,第一,就是它的聲音沒有吸引力,或者第二,它的位置(安置)高音揚聲器是不正當,或者兩者都是。


讓我們審查第二個可能就是高音揚聲器的安置。 传统上,許多師傅們經常鼓勵或勸告外在高音揚聲器的應該安置在入口孔的上面和在入口孔的左右兩邊。 看見這就是最佳的方式來吸引燕子飛行进入燕屋農場。 它是很普通的看到許多人採取這樣的技術在燕屋農場。 這不代表這個方式來安置外在高音揚聲器是不可使用的。 但是,如果給了您一個更好的選擇或更好的效力方式來誘惑燕子,可以讓燕子快速地进入燕屋農場,您會跟隨哪一個呢?


燕屋農場的一切是關於有靈活性的轉變技術來適應燕子想要什麼。 別忘記了它不是關於跟隨我們想要什麽或其他人共同地做了什麽而我們盲目的跟隨。


看看以上我畫了的圖片。 如果您經常觀察燕子如何對聲音的反應在入口孔(新的燕屋農場)您將發現他們飛到高音揚聲器的頂部然後下落。 通常一些燕子也許飛行进入燕屋農場,也有一些不會。 下落的自然強迫燕子向外飛行而不是飛行进入燕屋農場。(為在入口孔頂部被固定的高音揚聲器)


圖片A顯示,當燕子從高音揚聲器的頂部下落,很自動地它會飛離和飛出入口孔因爲那下落的力量。


但是圖片B,燕子不可能棲息在底部的高音揚聲器。 為了他們可以聽到或棲息,他們必須在底部的高音揚聲器之上飞行,然而這樣就推擠自己进入燕屋農場。 如果,環繞區固定2臺外在高音揚聲器在相反方,是更好的。 這將鼓勵它們飛行入環繞區玩和這樣就減少適應时间。


然而,為了這一點可以很有效地運作切记外在聲音必須是很好的,入口孔必須是在正确的位置,並且正确的大小,環繞區的大小也必須是適當的,燕屋農場必須也有好的芳香氣味等等。


通过瞭解這樣行為我认為,如果高音揚聲器被安置在入口孔的底部而不是在上面然後這樣會改變下落強迫因而增加燕子可能飛行进入燕屋農場。


实际上,我所有的燕屋農場都是採取這個技術,並且我看到飛行进入燕屋農場的燕子比那些安置高音揚聲器在上面的燕屋農場的百分比较更高。


您總是可以不同意我的講法或者争辩,說傳統方式是更好的,但是我坚持我的觀察和使用這樣方法,而且我從那些燕屋農場也看到了結果。


在這麽多年的觀察和參觀的許多燕屋農場,我不可能否認安置外在高音揚聲器真正地有关于燕子如何进入燕屋農場,特别是新的燕屋農場的燕子。


那么千萬別隨隨便便的安裝您的外在高音揚聲器在入口孔。 少少的变化可以為您帶來很大的區別。


我希望我與大家分享的技術和信息將帮助所有的燕屋農場增加燕子群和燕窩。


大家有好的燕屋農場! 最好是大家分享!

Thursday, April 21, 2011

Where to Fix the External Tweeters?


There are many ways to install the External sound tweeters at the Entrance hole but which is the best and most effective way to entice Swiftlets to enter the Bh especially new Bh?


The purpose of the External Tweeters is to call Swiftlets from far to guide them to enter the Bh. Once the birds are near the Entrance hole they would investigate the source of sound. Obviously the external sound that comes out from these tweeters has to be attractive in term of clarity, its tone of high and low pitches and so on. Otherwise the birds wouldn’t want to come near the tweeters at all. Some may just fly near it and turn away and may not return at all.


The correct installation of tweeters is vital for the success of the new Bh. Have you ever wonder why after the External sound has been switched on but birds only flying few feet away from the entrance hole and some just trying to fly close to the Tweeters but didn’t enter the Bh and later many didn’t return. Well it could be the sound which is not attractive or the positioning (placement) of the tweeters is wrongly positioned or it could be both.


Let’s examine the later which is the positioning of the external tweeters. Traditionally many Sifus often encourage or advise that the external tweeters at the entrance hole should be placed at the top and at the sides of the left and right of the entrance hole. Sighted that this is the best way to attract birds to fly into the Bh. It is common to see many Bhs adopting such technique. It doesn’t mean this way of placing the external tweeters is not workable. But if you were given a better choice or a much effective way of enticing the birds to enter the bh faster, then which would you follow?


Swiftlet farming is all about the flexibility of switching techniques to adapt to what birds wanted. Don’t forget it is not about following our wants or what others commonly done and we just follow.


Look at the picture above which I had drawn. If you have observed often how birds responded to sound at the entrance hole (new Bhs) you would discover that they would fly to the top tweeters and drop back. Often couple of times and some may fly into the bh and most wouldn’t. The drop back naturally forces the birds to fly out instead of flying into the bh.( for tweeters fixed at top of entrance hole)


Picture A shows that when the birds drop from the top tweeters they would automatically fly off and out from the entrance hole because of the drop off forces.


Whereas for picture B birds can’t perch to the lower tweeters that is on the bottom. In order for them to listen or perch at the bottom tweeters they have to fly above the bottom tweeters thus push themselves into the Bh. It is even better if the roving is fixed with 2 external tweeters at the opposite end. This would encourage them to fly into the roving to play and reduce the adaptation time.


Nevertheless, in order for this to work effectively do remember that the external sound has to be good, the entrance hole has to be at the right position and right sizes, the size of the roving has to be appropriate, the Bh has to have good effective Aroma smell and so on.


By understanding such behavior I conclude that if the Tweeters were to placed at the bottom of the entrance hole instead of the top then this would changed the drop back forces thus increasing the possibility of the birds to fly into the Bh.


In fact all my Bhs are adopting such technique and I see higher percentage of birds flying into bh compared to those that the tweeters were placed at the top.


You could always disagree with me or argue that the traditional way is much better but I stick to what I have observed and the result that I see from those bhs that using such method.


After many years of observation and visited numerous of Bhs I cannot deny that the positioning of the external tweeters really have an impact on how birds entering bhs, especially new bhs.


So never simply install your external tweeters at the entrance hole. A little change makes lots of differences.


I hope my sharing of techniques and info would help all Bhs to increase birds population and nests.


Good Swiftlet farming all. The Best is to Share!




Monday, April 18, 2011

您有多經常進入您的燕屋農場


我们应该需要多頻繁来檢查燕屋農場 ? 這是許多讀者通常会问的問題。 这些都看看那燕屋農場,它是否是一个新的燕屋農場,一个旧的燕屋農場或者一个非常成功的燕屋農場。


让我們以新的燕屋農場開始,刚刚完成的那些和刚刚開始的聲音的那些。


對于那些最近修造好的燕屋農場,頻繁的參觀并不是好事,因为这样会嚇唬进來燕屋農場的燕子。 一隻燕子需要非常勇敢的飛行进入一个完全新的環境,新的燕屋農場與所有那些不熟悉的路線、還有令燕子不快的水泥氣味等等的。 它们需要时间来適應這個新的環境,有時需要大概平均6個月或者更长的时间。


如果那个燕屋農場常常被到访,每星期1到2次或者更多的到访,我知道有許多是这样做的。 这样做将会带来更多的害處對燕屋農場特别是新的燕屋農場。


有許多案件燕屋主对我抱怨,在開了聲音的2個月之後,他好像在也沒有看見燕子飞入入口孔了。 再抱怨在第一個星期的时候是有上百的燕子在那裡进进出出的。 我懷疑的第一件事是燕屋主一定是經常參觀燕屋農場。 我見面對同樣問題的許多燕屋主,並且其中相同遭遇的是從Selidi, Johor的H先生。


「James先生,第一個星期我開了聲音的时候,許多燕子來玩。 他們在入口孔飛進飞出的。 但是在1個月之后,我就不再看到它們了。 到底发生了什么事?」


「H先生,我想这肯定是您的第一间燕屋農場。 並且您是不是很激動和想要知道,燕子是否有停留了? 您想要知道燕屋農場的哪些部分是燕子有飛行到的。 您也想要知道高音揚聲器或聲音是否在正确的地方被安裝等等。 所以您进入您的燕屋農場一个星期几次,因為您对您做的事是不肯定的」。


「James先生,您是超级厉害的啦! 我參觀我的燕屋農場至少每星期2次来检查。 您為什麼可以知道所有這些? 哇,您可以看清我想什么啊?


「沒有啦,H先生,因為我遇見太多像您这样的人」。


對于新的燕屋農場,在一切完成了和在開了聲音之後是每1個月參觀一次。 當進入新的燕屋農場時,确定您不要帶多的人。燕屋農場不是一個餐館。 在這個时间您應該有備而來,應該有一個查明表什麽是需要被觀察和完成的事情。 一旦您完成了您的任務,您必須立刻離開燕屋農場。 不要浪費時間周圍看看走走,像這樣的事您可以在附近的公園那裏做。


有些燕屋主度过許多個小時在燕屋農場裏。 他們甚而帶了食物進裡面和抽煙。 他們在裏面做各種各樣的事,有些是您不可能想像到的,這使情況變得更壞。


最佳的时候來檢查新的燕屋農場是從上午10.00到下午2.00。 在這個时间,您可以噴洒芳香(Love Potion)。 如果那是一個下雨天,您就必須延遲參觀。 最好的是在一個炎熱的一天。必須檢查的事:


1) Amps (它是否還在運作,是否有燒壞。 斷斷續續地開關幾次)


2) 高音揚聲器(檢查所有被分離的部分。 看看是否有任何的部分不运作)


3) 燕子屎 (有多少堆,在那裏。 這表明飛行道路是否正確)


4) 濕氣和溫度


5) 所有的定時器 (有些定時器可能在1個月之以就不能运作了)


6) 從管接的漏洞。


7) 檢查Amp的聲量


8) 檢查看看是否有害蟲。 (蟑螂,螞蟻,等等) 如有就必須毒害它們


9) 看看是否有任何額外大的鳥屎(貓頭鷹的屎)。


10) 在所有都完成和矯正之後,您就可以噴洒芳香。 一旦完成噴洒芳香(Love Potion)您就可以離開燕屋農場。


在筆記本記下您每次參觀做了什麽,以便您能比較和研究結果。 燕子屎的堆數量也是很重要的。 它表明有多少隻燕子到访了燕屋農場並且停留的。


不必須每星期或每隔一天參觀您的燕屋農場。 很明显地,當您是在您自己的燕屋農場时,可以看到您的成就會使您更加高興。但是最终的结果是很慘的,如果您不能控制您的燕屋農場敦促。


大家有好的燕屋農場! 最好是与大家分享!

Sunday, April 17, 2011

How Often To Visit Bh?




How often does one needs to check the Bh? This is a question commonly asked by many readers. It’s all depended on the Bh itself, whether it is a new Bh, old one or a very successful one.


Let’s start with new Bh, those that are just completed and just started their sounds.


For newly build Bhs, frequent visiting wouldn’t be good as it frighten birds that come in to the Bh. It takes a very brave bird to flying into the Bh of total new environment with all those unfamiliar routes, unpleasant cement smell, etc. It takes time for them to adapt to this new environment sometimes averagely 6 months or more.


If the Bh is being frequently visited 1 to 2 times a week or even more which I knew many are doing it. It would do harm than good to the Bh especially new Bh.


There were many cases where Bh owners complained to me that after opening the sound for 2 months he see no birds flying into Entrance hole anymore . Claiming previously the first week there were hundreds of birds flying in and out. The first thing I suspected was these owners of the Bhs must have been visiting the Bhs often. I have met up with many owners that are facing the same problems and one of the encounters was with M. H from Selidi, Johor.


“ Mr.James the first week I open the sound many birds come and play. They fly in and out of the Entrance hole. After 1 month I don’t see them anymore. What happened?”


“ Mr.H, I am sure that this is your first Bh. And you are so excited and wanting to know, whether the birds had stayed? You want to know which parts of the farm the fly to. You also want to know whether the tweeter or sound is perfectly installed at the right places and so on. Therefore you visit you farm at least few times a week because you are uncertain about all the things that have been done.”


“Mr.James, you are dam right lah! I visit my farm at least 2 times a week to check out. How come you know all these? Wah you can read peoples mind ah?


“No Mr. H, because I have seen and met too many people like you.”



For new Bh after everything has been completed and the sound switched on the best is to visit once every 1 months. When visiting new Bh make sure you do not bring too many people to the Bh. The Bh is not a restaurant. During this time you should have a check list of things that needed to be observed and done. Once you have completed your task you have to leave the Bh immediately. Don’t spend your time looking around and walking around you could do that later at the Park.


There are some owners that spend many hours inside the Bh. They even brought foods inside and smoke. They do all sorts of thing that you couldn’t imagine this make the situation worst.


The best time to check the new Bh is from 10.00am to 2.00pm. During this time you could spray the Aroma (Love Potion). Delay the visit if it is a raining day. The best is on a hot day.


Things to check:


1) The Amps (whether it’s running well/ overheating. Switch it off and on again)


2) Tweeters (check all segregated section. See any sections is not working)


3) Birds droppings (How many spots and where there are. This would indicate whether the flying path is correct or otherwise)


4) The Humidity and temperature


5) All timers (some timers may not work after 1 month)


6) Leakage from piping joints.


7) Check the volume of the Amp


8) Check any pest. (Cockroaches, Ants.etc) poison them


9) Any extra ordinary big patches of dropping (Owl).


10) After all completed and rectified then you can spray the Aroma. Once finished spraying the Aroma (Love Potion) you may leave the Bh .



Jot down in a notebook what you have done on every visit so that you could compare the findings. The number of Birds Shit spot is important. Its indicate how many birds that have visited the Bh and stayed.


Don’t visit your Bh every week or every other day. Obviously it makes you happier to see your achievement when you are inside your own Bh. But the end result would be disastrous if you can’t control your Swiftlet farming urge.


Good Swiftlet Farming All. The Best is To Share.



Friday, April 15, 2011

您的内部声音是否有用?


(好的內部聲音是很重要的。 所以多数的燕窝是被修造在高音揚聲器的)



(小燕子正在享受內部聲音)



昨天我在Bidor見了一位L先生 他想要为他的燕屋農場找一些好的內部聲音。 L先生在燕屋農場并不是新手。 他早在几年前已经開始了燕屋農場。 雖然他住在Bidor,经营一家金属预制件和机器的生意,但是他所有的燕屋農場都是在Bidor之外的地方。 他有6间燕屋農場,多数都在多处的Perak和在Pahang



打從我開始我的部落格时我就认识了他,他曾经打过很多电话给我与我交換知識。 他是真正的一位燕屋農場熱心者。 他要我参观他的燕屋農場很多次了,但是由于我的时间表总是排得紧紧的,我就是没有时间给他,我知道他是很不高兴的,尤其是當我延遲了我們的预约.



L先生要我特別地为他再混合一些內部聲音。 他的原因是他已经对那些这么多年來買下和那些最近買的內部聲音很灰心了。 那些声音的花費有的几百零吉,也有的几千零吉的,並且他的收藏里是有那么的多。 从本地的到邻国的他都有買。



這次他想要请我吃午餐,並且同時我可以把我為他特別做的新內部聲音交给他。 我最后一次見到他是去年的年头,那也是一年多的时间了。 他抱怨的说「James,要请您吃午餐也那么难」。 因此這次我不可能再延遲我們的见面。 為了我们的友誼,我特地驾车到Bidor見他。



James,我已经到那餐館了。您在那里?」



L先生,我是在那角落停我的汽車」。



「嗨,James,你好吗? 我聽说您做的不错



「还好啦 現在是有点忙」。



L先生,您的燕屋農場也做的很好嘛」



「不错啦,James 最旧的那俩间燕屋農場是做的很好的,其他的也是在追上。 我必須感謝您發明了Love Potion」。



「不客气。 在我每次見您的時候,總是有好消息的您為什麼那么紧张要內部聲音呢? 如果我沒记錯您已經有大量的聲音了」。



James,我在那几间新的燕屋農場使用几个新的內部聲音,声称是最好的。 我的朋友和許多师傅都說有更多幼燕子的声音聽起來是更好的。 他們說最佳的內部聲音應該包含越多的幼燕子声音,和不应该其他成熟燕子的聲音。 但是在使用了它之后,我的新燕屋農場似乎没有任何作用,並且燕子的人口和燕窝也沒有增加,就好像我期望的一样。



這不是我第一次聽見这样的抱怨。 我接到許多讀者的电话问我是否有包含100%的幼燕子聲音,或者只是幼燕子和掺有一點点成熟燕子聲音的內部聲音。 我的回復是沒有,但是他們却是很失望的。



就好像我總是解釋了,並且尋找事實和正實。



要瞭解这一点,是非常簡單的。 去參觀那些有几千个窝的燕屋農場,然后听听那里的內部聲音,现场的聲音,您將会瞭解到100%幼燕子聲音是行不通的。 (我猜不是有許多人有这样的機會)



在燕子的殖民地系統,在燕屋農場里,燕子不可能只使用一种或几种的声音方式来沟通。 一个被住满有上千个燕窝的燕屋農場里,有任何一个年龄的燕子,包括從年輕的到老的,也有很多幼燕子弄出各种各样的声音,这就是它們溝通的方法。 內部聲音就是由這些居民所制造出来的。 它是繁忙和活跃的環境。 它就好像在菜市的環境,有很多活動和人口。



想像您去菜市,但是您只可以聽到嬰孩的哭声,您是否还會想進一步的購物呢?簡單的邏輯答復是「不可能」,您也許会跑掉和不回来。



对燕屋農場這也适用的。 如果燕屋農場里的內部声音只是由有幼燕子或者只有少量的成熟的燕子的声音結合的,那么听起来也就没有引引力。 燕窝的成長將是很慢的。 如果它是100%幼燕子的声音,那聽起來它的结果是更壞的。



內部聲音應該包括不同的燕子的聲音,混合從年輕到年老的。只要是与內部聲音有關,它就不應該只限于幼燕子的聲音。每个聲音的百分比包含(混合)在整體的內部聲音是需要被人从新再混合的。 这个人對燕子的聲音通信理解和經驗影響整个內部声音的完成結果。



整體的宗旨將創造一个旧的成功燕屋農場的環境,以便它可以吸引越多的燕子停留和做窝在最短的时间。 换句话说,新的燕屋農場應該听起來好像旧成功的燕屋農場,並且旧的燕屋農場應該听起來好像非凡成功的燕屋農場。



同样的這也适用于适度、温度、黑暗等等。 所有的一切都是为燕子喜爱環境的而創造的。



如果內部的聲音不適合或者不发出象有大量燕子群的一個好環境,那么它就不會吸引燕子停留的。



如果您的燕子群和燕窝成長不增加,那么应该是时候您改變內部聲音了。 但是确定您换的是正确的內部聲音,要不然就好像没有做一样。



不是所有的內部聲音都是相同的。 它就好像是我們從收音機聽到的歌曲。 不是所有的歌手的口氣和聲音都是相同的。 並且不是所有的歌曲都是好聽。 只是少许被选中的是在榜上的。



L先生吃完了午餐和谈了一会之後,我必須赶回巴生去为我的讀者從K.Bharu拿一些燕屋農場的用品。



我希望以上可以幫助解釋內部聲音和它的内容的重要性。



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Thursday, April 14, 2011

Is Your internal Sound Working?

(Good internal sound is important. That is why most nests are built at Tweeters)
( young birds enjoying the Internal sound)



I was in Bidor yesterday to meet up with Mr.L. He wants some good internal sounds for his Bhs. Mr.L is not new in Swiftlet farming. He had started it many years ago. Though he lives in Bidor as he runs a Metal fabrication & engineering company but all his Bhs are located outside Bidor. He has 6 Bhs which many of them located in Perak and the rest in Pahang.


I have known him since I started my blog where he used to call me often to exchange knowledge. He is really a swiftlet farming enthusiast. He had asked me visit him but due to my tight schedule I couldn’t make it and he don’t seem to like it when I delayed our supposed to be appointment…ha..ha.


Mr.L wanted me to specially remix some internal sounds for him. His reason was he got fed up with those internal sounds that he had bought over the years and some that he had bought recently. They cost few hundred to few thousand ringgit each and he has so many of them in his collection. He had bought them locally and from neighboring countries.


This time he wanted to buy me lunch and at the same time I could pass him the new Internal sounds that I had specially made for him. The last time I met up with him was early last year that was 1 year ago. He complained “James to buy you lunch also very hard”. So this time I can’t delay our meeting anymore. For friendship this time I drove to Bidor just to meet him.


“James I am already at the Pun Chun restaurant. Where are you?”


“Mr. L, I am just at the corner parking my car”.


“Hello James… how are you? I heard that you are doing very well...”


“Ok …lah.. a bit busy now.”


“Mr.L, your bhs are also doing very well also what”


“Not bad lah James, the 2 oldest Bhs are doing good the rest is catching up. I have to thank you for inventing Love potion”.


“Don’t mention it lah. Every time I see you, there is always good news…ha…ha… Why do you need the internal sound so urgently? If I am not mistaken you have got plenty of sounds already.”


“James I am using few new internal sounds that claimed to be the bests in my few new Bhs. My friends and many sifus said the more Babies sound in it the better it is. They said the Best Internal sound should contain as many babies sound as possible and no other mature bird sounds in it. After using it in my new Bhs it doesn’t seemed to work and the population and nests didn’t increase as I have expected. ”


This is not the first time I heard this. I have received numerous calls from readers asking whether I have internal sounds that contain 100% babies sound or just plain babies sound with little of other mature birds sounds. My reply was no and they were disappointed.


Like what I had always explained think and look for fact and factual.


To understand this, it is very simple. Go and visit Bhs that have few thousand nests and listen to the internal sound, the live sound, you would understand why 100% baby’s sounds don’t works. (Well I guess not many have the chances to do so)


In a birds colony system no way thru birds communication swiftlets only use 1 single type of sound or few sounds in the Bhs. A well occupied Bh that has thousand of nests consist of all birds from young to old and as well as babies making different kind noise and sounds as they communicate. The internal sound is produced by these residents. It is busy and lively enviroment. It is just like a Market environment that show business activities and population.


Imagine if you go to the Market and all you could hear is only babies crying sounds, would you want to shop further? Simple logic the answer is “NO” you might run away and never return.


This too applies to Bh. If the Internal sound consist of only few sounds perhaps only babies sounds or combined with one or two distinctive adults sound it won’t be that attractive. The growth will be slow. If it is 100% babies sound then it is even worst.


The internal sound should consist of mixture of varieties of different birds’ sounds from young to old. It shouldn’t be restricted to only baby sound as far as the internal sound concerned. The percentage of each sound that contains (mixed) in the whole internal sound is subjected to the need of the person who is doing the mixing. His understanding of birds’ sound communication and experiences influence the result of the finished internal sound.


The whole objective is to create an environment of old successful Bh so that the It could attract as many Swiftlets as possible to stay and to make nests at the shorter time. In other words a new Bh should sound like an old successful Bhs and an old Bh should sound like an extraordinary successful Bh.


Similarly this applies to Rh, Temp, Darkness,etc. All are to create an environment that is like by Swiftlets.


If the internal sound doesn’t suit or it doesn’t sound like a good environment that has plenty of birds’ populations then it won’t attract birds to stay.


If your birds population and nests growth doesn’t increase as much as you expected then it is time to change the internal sound. But make sure you change the right internal sound otherwise it makes no different.


Not all internal sounds are the same. It’s just like the songs we listen from the Radio. Not all tone and voices of the singers are the same. And not all songs are nice to listen. Only the selected few would be at top of the Chart.


After meeting up with Mr.L for lunch and a short discussion I have to be back in Klang to collect some Bh items for my reader from K.Bharu.


I hope the above has helped to explain the importance of Internal sound and its contain.


Good Swiftlet a farming All. The Best Is to Share!


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Thousand Swiftlets

swiftlet farming-James

Revamped Bh -With Gs Sound

Swiftlet Sound GS

Swiftlet Farming

Successful SWIFTLET FARM

New Swiftlet Farm wth GS-9 Ext sound. Video recorded 5 minute after sound switched on

Good External Sound of a SWIFTLET FARM

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2 years Old Swiftlets Farm

Classic Video from a Good friend of mine "SeeSeng". Taken 4 yrs ago.

Bird Test With the Powerful Bird Test Kit (Stress Sound) Attracts birds within 30 seconds