Harvesting ( Helps to Increase Birds Population and Nests)

( nests from my few months old farm)

One of the mistakes commonly made by many farmers is delaying harvesting. This is due to unable to set a schedule for harvesting. Nobody knows your farm better than yourself. You know your farm best. The number of nests, number of birds, number of nest marking, the weather around your area, and so on.

All these would help you in planning out your harvest. A good planned harvest helps to increase birds’ population and nests.

There are many farmers reluctant to harvest nests especially in new farms that have 20-50 nests. Reasons cited are ‘lets the nests grow more, too early to harvest, too few to harvest and so on with 100& 1 reason. In fact by delaying the harvest they are preventing the number of nests to increase.

I had visited many failed farms and often seen nests in these farms are not harvested some have been there for months or years. I asked the owned why didn’t you harvest them? The reply was ‘If I harvested them then I can’t see them anymore”.

It is so precious to them. They’re afraid if they harvested all nests they will lose them forever. This is nature, swiftlet have no use of their nests after their chicks fly away. Often they will recycle or use back their old nests if it’s not removed from here you would lose every each nest that is recycled by the bird.

In fact if they had harvested them the number of nests would have been increased by double. Harvesting boost up the nests grows but it has to be done properly in a well planned and systematic manner.

For farms that have many nests a poor planned harvest will not only affect the number of nest (future) but also the birds’ population, nests quality and so on.

Let’s not be afraid to harvest the nests in farms, be it 5 or 10 nests because harvesting is part of a technique of pushing up the number of nests in farms.

Some of the tips here are:

- Never harvest the nests on a rainy or cloudy day. As many Swiftlet may be in the farm. Raining day swiftlets wouldn’t travel far for food often they will come back to the farm. It is uncommon to see many of them in the farm.

- Harvesting should start in the morning and should finish by 2.00 pm.

- Start with one section complete that part then only move to another.

- Do not spend too much time in the farm if it is not necessary. Your objective is to do harvest not TehTarik.

- Do a record and mark them down how many nests for every each harvest (date and time)

- After every each harvest spray Love Potion to eliminate human odor and create an environment that would make the birds feel comfortable.

After you have done the above and on the coming next harvest compare the number of nests you have harvested, the number of new nests, the quality of nests and so on with the previous record then you would understand what I mean.

Good Farming All!

燕屋里的燕窝可以告诉您来历

(非常乾淨的白色燕窝)

(被處理过的燕窝)

(5 寸巨大沒有羽毛的燕窝)

(古怪形狀的燕窝)

您是否知道在我們燕屋農場燕窝的質量可以告诉您来历？ 形狀、大小、颜色等等全部可以告诉我們關於我們的燕屋農場的情况，並且我們的燕屋農場未來朝向的方向。

我可以打賭你們更本沒有體會到这些。 如果您是足够老練的通过看到您的燕窝您可以知道燕子在您的燕屋農場是否愉快地居住在那裡。

一些也許想知道每個月的收穫有几公斤燕窝的一些燕屋農場，但是在过一段时期，公斤的数量為什麼会減少。 (他們是不愉快的)

為什麼燕窝是骯髒的，有羽毛和燕子粪，甚而一些变成褐色等等。 許多将在燕屋農場增加濕氣来抵抗這個問題。 实际上，他們知道这些变动是跟屋内环境有关，但是知道这些还是不足够好的。 您必须知道問題是什么和問題在那里。 這可需要有多年的燕屋農場經驗和明锐的觀察。

的確是的，濕氣在燕窝的質量上扮演一個重要的角色，但是它的重要性只是到某一个程度。 增加濕氣將減少燕窝的乾燥和裂缝。 有好并且可以接受的濕氣將使燕窝更加有亮度，但是它不会100%减少有骯髒古怪形狀的燕窝。

太重的濕氣將導致燕窝变長形狀，著色等等。 实际上，有太重的濕氣不是一件好的事，燕窝的質量將被影響。 燕子需要很長的时间来完成燕窝，因為它的唾液是很难乾的。 燕子也許放弃完成燕窝，并且尋找另一個適合它們的燕屋農場。

骯髒的窝，古怪形狀的窝，太小的窝等等展示燕子是不完全地是滿意燕屋農場的情况。 雖則溫度和濕氣也許在可接受的水平中，但是燕子是在找之外的。

通过我的經驗看見許多的燕屋農場，燕子是想要一个安全和容易寻找的地方。 它們一定需要在燕屋農場感到安全才可以生產优良品质的窝。 如果燕子感覺他們居住的燕屋農場不安全或不舒適，並且這將使燕子有压力而影響燕窝的制造过程。

在每一段时间的變動，那包括您的燕屋農場的情况。燕屋農場的情况不可能保持一樣。 一些在1-2年前也許是完善的，到現在可能是不完美的。 記住燕子的数量增加，這將增加熱气，燕子粪的儲積也是影響屋内环境(壞和好)等等。

通过瞭解以上的，我們需要經常觀察變動和矯正什麼是需要的，連續維護一個好的情况。 如果您燕屋農場的收获到達了某些公斤的窝，並且您对它的收获是满意的和您就放下它照原样。 很快的，您會看到您的收穫減少，并且有许多新的燕屋農場在您的旁邊。

但是您不可能責備自己？ 如果您看不出燕窝品资下跌那么怎麼可能解決或矯正它們呢？

然后您也許想要打电话给我.....!

大家有好燕屋！

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Nests in Swiftlets farm Tell Tales

( a very clean white nest)

( a processed nest)

(a 5 " huge nest without feather)

(weird shape nest)

Did you know that the nests quality in our farms tell tales? The shape, sizes, coloration, etc all tell us about the condition of our farms and where the future of our farms are heading.

I bet many of you have not realized this. If you are experienced enough by looking at the nests you would know whether the Swiftlets in the farm are happily living there.

Some might even wonder why a farm that is harvesting many kgs of nest every month but over the time the numbers of kgs is reducing. (They are not happy)

Why nests are dirty with feathers and dropping, some even turn brownish and so on. Many have resorted to increase the humidity in farms to counter this problem. In fact they knew it has got to do with the micro condition, but knowing this is not good enough. You must know spot on which and what is the exact problem. Well this might takes years of swiftlet farming experience and having sharp observation.

Indeed yes, humidity plays a role in nest quality but to certain extend. Increasing humidity would reduce the dryness of the nests thus reducing cracks and holes gap. Having good acceptable humidity would make the nests more of a shinny looks but it doesn’t 100% eliminated the dirty weird shape of a nest.

Too high of humidity will cause the shape of nest elongated, coloration and so on. In fact it is not a good thing to have high humidity the quality of the nests will be effected. While for the birds it takes a longer time to complete the nests as it is harder for the saliva to dry. The birds may give up making the nests and look for another farm that suit them.

Dirty nests, weird shaped nests, small sizes of nests and so on show the birds are not completely satisfy with the condition of the farm. Though the temperature and the Rh may be at the acceptable level but swiftlets are looking beyond this.

Thru my experiences of having seen so many farms besides the above Swiftlets want a place that is safe and easy to access. They must feel safe in the farm In order for them to produce good quality nests. If there felt the farm they have been living somewhat not safe and not comfortable anymore then birds will have stress thus this will affect the nests making process.

Over the time every changes, that included your farm’s condition. A farm’s condition couldn’t remain the same over its life span. What might be perfect 1-2 years ago may be imperfect now. Bear in mind population of Swiftlets grow, this will generate heat, the accumulation of the dropping also affect the micro condition and (bad and good) and so on.

By understanding the above we need to constantly observe the changes and rectify what is needed to maintain a good continuous condition. If your farm has reached certain kgs of nests and you are happy about it and you leave it as it is. In no time you would see your harvest reducing when there are more new farms building next to yours.

But you can’t blame yourself can you? If you didn’t know how to look for sigh of deteriorations in your nests then how could solve or rectifying them?

Then you might want to call me…..!

Good farming All

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一个普通的问题

我是否應該应用芳香，安裝潤濕器和六角高音揚聲器等等在我新的燕屋農場？ 這是我的讀者问的問題一個燕屋農場開始了大约6個月前。

您们全部认為怎样？

我问我的讀者您的燕屋農場还是沒有這些所有的必要材料？ 是的James，我的顧問說暫時這些是不必要的。 他說讓所有的燕子进來，並且停留和作巢以后他將在一兩年的时间內然才安裝它。

我是非常肯定在一兩年內这个顧問將無處被找到。 這是发生在那些人錯誤選擇顧問来修建他們的燕屋農場的其中一件普通的事。

這样的情景不僅发生在新手身上，而且在燕屋農場是非常普通的。

我再问他， 燕子糞便的標誌在大小上有变大或在數字上有增量吗？ 他说在第2個月有2個或3個的糞便的標誌，但是现在已經乾了。

「James我的顧問說不需要投入任何芳香，因為，當燕子的數字增加，糞便將生產氣味」

「James我的顧問也說不需要投入好或有效的聲音。不需要六角高音揚聲器，因為，當許多燕子停留了他們將做出很大的聲音」。

我只可以說的是或者那些顧問是落后的，在技巧之下或者他尽量办法削减成本，以便他能够获得更多的利润。 其次，我的這個讀者被耍了。

這不是第一次我遇到這樣的問題，實際上它是相當普通的。 此外，當我參觀失败的燕屋農場並且修補他們时，這些是失败燕屋農場的燕屋主所问的同樣問題。 因此，您可以看到相似性失败的燕屋農場和新的燕屋農場相比不用芳香，潤濕器，六角形的聲音等等。

我們談論的第一步时我們怎样可以創造一個好的環境，以便燕子將会进來並且停留。 如果您不可能創造一個好的環境，那么燕子怎麼能进去停留。

应用所有的芳香等等這些是創造燕子喜歡的好環境。 好環境是成功燕屋農場的鑰匙到。 大多数我們都是知道关于此的，但是我們仍然设法去反向？ 有时我真正地哑语無言的。 是否去反向是一种樂趣了？

我告诉我的讀者，我不可能干涉您的顧問所計劃或做的一切。 您接受了他的提議，並且他完成了您的工作。 因為它不是公平的對您或對您的顧問，我不可能進一步的评论。 此外我也不是您的顧問，您可以或許在一兩年內找我修補您的燕屋農場，如果您看見有需要的话。

上帝保祐您..... 這是我告訴他的话。

那些顧問他們是否是正真的純熟，不熟練或者完全沒有技能，他們全部都是我们所说的「找吃」。

实际上，燕屋主有(80%)是需要被責備的。顧問是他們選擇的。 他們應該负起全部的责任。

大家有好燕屋!


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燕子调查和評估（意想不到的）

我被讀者邀請到他打算修建燕屋農場的區域来做可行性调查和評估。

它是位于離巴生谷不遠的地方。 因為它是離开忙碌的城市不遠，因此我期望它是有許多發展，並且燕子的数量是小的。 我很意外它證明我錯誤了。

在我們谈話之前，我有勸告他， 「如果您是不熟悉的，不如做一个调查而不是茫然的进入这个事业，要不然您會丟失您所投資的」。

我告訴了他，如果调查的結果是不讚同的，我將勸告他不修造它，並且他准备采取我的忠告。 當然在這个行业有許多將鼓勵新手进入这个事业，即使他們知道这个區域是不会有好燕屋農場的。 這是因為他們想要由燕屋農場的建築获得利润，燕屋農場將来是否有窝他們是不会關心的。

我进行測試的這個區域圍攏了大量的綠色有小小的山丘和小河，特别是油棕園。可看見有大量的燕子在活動。 有許多燕子在綠色的园丘之上飛行狩獵食物。

這個區域有少量現有的燕屋農場。 在我做合理的測試之前，我问他您知道這些燕屋農場有多久吗？ 他回復了「我不知道可能他們是新的」。

我告訴他不要紧，我可以自己找答案。 他回復了「您怎么可以知道呢？ 我告訴了他「我只需要看看窗口的那些磚」。

通过我的經驗從在那些磚的青苔可以判斷燕屋農場在那裡有2-3年的时间。

然后他再问我們怎麼知道這些是成功的燕屋農場。 我告訴他，看看在燕屋農場的屋頂周围有圍攏那些防盗的铁線。 因此，燕屋主不會沒有原因的花费几千零吉的，那裡必须是有偷竊。 如果這裡有竊賊意味那裡必须是有窝 (竊賊是不會愚笨的进入沒有窝或只有少量窝的燕屋農場)。 实际上，通过判斷在那巨型的防盗铁線我是非常肯定那裡是有大量的我在燕屋農場。

实际上，許多不會注意到這个潛力它是一個低調的區域。 當燕子返回时，我问我的讀者，您是否有在那些燕屋農場計數燕子？ 他回復是的。 然后我說很好您做了您的功课。 到底有多少隻燕子呢？ 他回復了“我计算到五百多然後太多，並且我丟失了計數。 那是一個很好的回復。

我告訴了他平均8隻燕子1个窝的比率。我告訴自己不要紧。 在看看區域的附近和勘測那些現有的燕屋農場之后，我拿出我的BTK並且开了重音聲音在短短的几秒钟内有20隻燕子盤旋在我的汽車頂部上。

当我們谈天时，燕子的数量变得更多。 在短短的15分钟内有上几百隻燕子，並且还有許多是在飞來着的。

我问我的讀者您是否高兴看到許多燕子？ 他給了我一個很好笑的的回復。

James“這些燕子是屬於周围地区和從那些燕屋農場的。 我想要的是沒有屬於任何人的和野生的那些燕子“。

我幾乎吐血了，不可以怪他，他地實是新手。

有谁能告诉我哪些燕子(A.fuciphugus)從Selangor不是屬於燕屋農場的？

在哪裡有野生的燕子？在這里又沒有山洞。 所有的燕子都是從燕屋農場的。问题是誰能的到燕子特别是幼燕子。

如果您修建了一個好的燕屋農場那么您會吸引其他燕屋農場的燕子。 肯定沒有野生的燕子，有野生的鳥但是是居住在樹上的。

在15分钟内的測試有上几百隻燕子，它显示這個地方确实是有益于燕屋農場的。

它超過了我極小的必需至少有50隻燕子的數字以上，和燕子必須對聲音的反應在15分钟内，少于这些是被认为壞的。

這個測試是大大的通過了。

我勸告我的讀者可以向前建築。 這個是一个好的地方，並且並非許多人知道关于它。 我猜測他是很幸运找到這個地方。

大家有好燕屋!

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The Common Question!

Should I apply Aroma, Install Humidifiers and Hexagonal tweeter and so on in my new farm? This is the question asked by my reader who had a farm started about 6 months ago.

What do you all think?

I asked my reader you mean your farm doesn’t have all these necessary stuff?

Yes James, my consultant said for now it is not necessary. He said let all the swiftlets come in and stay and make nests first then in a year or two later he will install it for me.

I am very sure in a year or two the consultant will be nowhere to be found. This is one of the common things that happen to those who have chosen the wrong person to undertake to build a swiftlet farm for them.

This scenario not only happened to newbie but also to many who are quite well verse in swiftlet farming.

I asked him again, any sign of Swiftlets droppings in patches which increase in size or in numbers? He replied just 2 or 3 patches in the 2^nd month but all dried up already.

“James my consultant said no need to put any Aroma because when the numbers of Swiftlets increases then the dropping will produce smell”

“James my consultant also said no need to put good or effective sound. No need hexagonal tweeter either because when many swiftlets had stayed they will make lots of loud sound”.

All I can say is either those consultants are out dated, under skill or he is finding ways to cut cost so that he could make more profit. Secondly this reader of mine had been taken for a ride.

Well this is not the first time I have come across such question in fact it is quite common to hear this. Furthermore when I visit failed farms and revamp them these are the same questions asked by the failed farm’s owner. So could you see the similarity the failed farms have compared with the new farms that do not us Aroma, Humidifier, Hex sound and so on.

We are talking about the first step of how we could create a good environment so that Swiftlets would come and play and stay. If you can’t create a good environment then how could the swiftlets going to stay.

Apply Aroma and so on all these are to create a good environment liked by Swiftlets. Good environment is a key to successful farm. How come most of us knew about this and yet we still try to go against it? Sometimes I ‘m really speechless. Is it going against the norm is fun?

I told my reader, I cannot interfere with what your consultant had planned or done. You had accepted his offer and he has completed the job for you. I cannot comment further on this because it is not fair to you as well to your consultant. Furthermore I am not your consultant perhaps in a year or two you may call me to revamp your farm if you see there is the need.

God bless you….. This is what I told him.

Those consultants whether they are skillful, unskilled or totally no skills they are all human who just want to “cari makan”.

Actually the farm’s owner s is partly to be blamed (80%). They are the one who choose the consultants. They should take full responsibility.

Good farming All!

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Birds Test & Survey. (Unexpected)

I was invited by my reader to do a feasibility survey and evaluation at an area he intended to build a swiftlets farm.

It was located not far from Klang Valley. Since it is not far from the bustling city therefore I expected there would be lots of development and the birds’ population would be small. To my surprise it proved me wrong.

Before this we have spoken before and I had advised him, “It is better to do a survey rather than just go into it if you are not familiar with the surroundings area you would ended up losing what you have invested”.

I told him if the survey turned out to be unfavorable I shall advise him not to build it and he is prepared to take my advice. Of course there are many who are in this trade would encourage newbies to go ahead even though they knew the area is no good for Swiftlet farm. This is because they want to make profit from the construction of the farm whether the farm they built would have nests or otherwise in future is none of their concern.

This area where I conducted the test was surrounded with plenty of green especially Palm Oil plantation with small hills and streams. There are plenty of swiftlet activities that are visible. There’re many Switlets flying above the canopy of green hunting for food.

This area has few existing farms. Before I did the Sound Test I asked him do you know how long have all these farms operated? He replied “I have no Idea maybe they are new”.

I told him never mind I could find out myself. He replied “How could you tell? Well I told him “look at those bricks at the window”.

Thru my experience by judging from the fungus mark on those bricks the farm could have been there for 2-3 years.

Then he asked me again how do we know these are successful farms or otherwise. I told him well, look at the massive bard wire surrounding the roof of those farms. The owner won’t spend few thousand rigggit for no reason therefore there must be theft here.

If there are thieves here that means there must be nests (thief won’t be so stupid to enter farms that has no nests or just have few nests). In fact by judging at the massive bard wire I am very sure there are plenty of nests in those farms.

In fact it was a low profile area many wouldn’t have noticed such potential. I asked my reader, didn’t you do a bird count on those farms at evening when the birds return? He replied yes,. Then I said very well you have done your homework. How many birds would that be? He replied” I counted until five hundred then too many and I lost count. That was a good reply.

I told him averagely 8 birds to 1 nest that is the ratio. Never mind I told myself. After looking around the area and surveying some of the existing farms I took out my BTK and switched on the Stress sound within second there were 20 birds circling on top of own cars.

As we were chit –chating the number of birds were getting bigger. Within 15 minute there are few hundred birds and many more are coming.

I asked my readers are you happy to see so many birds responded? He gave me a funny reply.

James” these birds belong to the surrounding areas here and from those farms. I want those birds that belong to nobody and from the wild.”

I almost vomited blood can’t blame him he is truly a newbie.

Can anyone tells me which birds ( A.fuciphugus) from Selangor doesn’t belong to farm?

Where the hell there are such thing call wild birds? There is no cave here. All birds are somehow from farms. It is a matter of who is getting whose birds especially the young birds.

If you have constructed a good farm then you would attract all others farms’ birds. For sure there are no wild Swiftlets but there are wild birds that live on trees ..

For few hundred birds within 15 minute of test it shows this place is definitely good for farming.

It surpassed my minimum required number of birds which is at least 50 and above and the birds have to response to the sound within 15 minute anything least its considered bad.

This test passed with flying color.

I advise my reader to go ahead with the construction. This place is good and not many people know about it. I guess he is lucky to have found this place.

Good farming all!

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獨立燕屋的時尚

(從印尼的改良樣式。 入口洞幾乎只有1x1尺。 燕屋主一定忘記了他是在馬來西亞修建燕屋農場)

(看上去更像" Lego"。許多燕屋農場被修建在1個區域，因此，他們必須油上不同的顏色在他們的燕屋農場，以便燕子不會进錯燕屋農場。)

(2年前大约花費了2百万来修造的燕屋農場。 但是，是不有收获的)

(另一套Lego出來了。 越多是越热闹的。 至少您可以與您的鄰居閒談。)

(所有的设计都是一致的)

(更多塊出來抽热闹。 它不是關於您的燕屋農場有多少燕窝。 它是趨向，如果您有一间獨立燕屋農場，我也有. " 大家都想要擁有一间獨立燕屋農場，失敗或成功时不在乎的")

這些照片是在我到东海岸期間拍下的。 我的好朋友顯示我东海岸的人们是如何在大標度的做獨立燕屋農場。

实际上它不是新的。 其中一些燕屋農場在那裡超过2年的时间而它的結果不是有很大的收获。

其中一些大廈是5層樓的，採取的空間有100尺長或更多的。 燕屋主一定計劃了20-40年的将来。 我想知道他们有機會看將來吗。

一些巨型和巨大的投資，但是，哀傷的是，在燕屋農場里，金錢也不可能幫助到您。 由于燕子是不认金錢的，它們所要是可以停留和修造窝的一個好的環境。

其中一些燕屋農場是由某一些馬來西亞著名的人物擁有的。

因此？...... 因此什麼!

燕子是不会理会的。

好好享受照片。

大家有好燕屋!


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The Standalone Craze

(Adaptation from Indonesia Style. The Entrance Hole barely 1x1ft. The owner must have forgotten that he is building a farm in Malaysia)

( Look more like "Lego".Having built so many farms in 1 area so they have to paint their farms in different colors so that birds would not enter the wrong farm.)

( Cost about 2m to build 2 years ago. Somewhat not promising)

(Another set of Lego is coming up. The more the merrier. As least you can chit-chat with your neighbour. )

(Standard design for all )

( more blocks are coming up to joint the crowd. It is not so much about how many nests in your farm. It is a trend of, if you have a standalone so do I. "everybody wants to own a standalone failure or success doesn't matter")

These are the pictures taken during my trip to the East Coast. I good friend of mine showed me how people in the East coast doing Standalone farm in big scale.

In fact it‘s not new. Some of these farms have being there for more than 2 years and the results somewhat not promising.

Some of these building are 5 storey and taking space of 100 ft long or more. The owner must have planned for next 20-40 years. I wonder has he got the chance to see what in the future.

Some coming in massively with huge investment but sad to say so money can’t help when it comes to swiftlet farming. Because Swiftlets don’t recognize money all they wanted is a good conducive environment that they could stay and build nests.

Some of these farms are owned by some well known figure in Malaysia.

So ?......So what !

Swiftlet don’t care.

Enjoy the pictures.

Good farming all!
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这样有道理吗？

它是否有道理呢？付支几十萬零吉您唯一得到的好處是可以尽量的放大聲您的高音揚聲器，沒有人会里会您和關心。 除了这个之外您什么都不獲取。

這是麼您會得到的，如果您在這样偏僻的區域购买一個特別目的的產物。 除了那之外您根本沒得到什么。 不要記住底层是永远不可能被租出的，產物的地點在偏僻的區域。

此外之外它不是為事務和商品化的目的除了位燕子能停留和做窝。 甚而若燕子不停留並且不在您買的單位的做窝....... ？ ？ 您有想过这些吗？ 我猜没有!

事實上現在这是这样的趨向，發展商利用這机會並且尽量的赚取很多的金錢。 不能責備他們，因为他们都是企業家，看到這个賺錢的方法，尤其是在那些無知的新手投資者。

這个機會是如何來的？ 首先它归结于那些被談論的執行，如果我可以記得的话是在燕屋農場启发的时候(但是它未曾實現)。

和平常一样恐懼是觸發購買最佳的因素像保險一样。 所以多數，如果不是所有的保险公司可以赚大笔的錢。 企業家知道因此他們通过这样来提供安全和准证来包装这个配套给這些新手或半新手。

其次，它归于貪婪因为在紙张上，發展商許諾某些回歸並且保證某些事。 在紙张上恰好的所有5年后，有空調、免费的飲料、午餐和禮物等等在一間會议室。 实际上它不可能這样运作。

如我總是說成功的燕屋主有非常大的勇气因为他們沒有什麼的恐懼，因此，因為他们认为只要我不對其他導致伤害，对他們来说執行是次要的。 成功的燕屋主不會去買这些商店的單位或位于偏僻的區域由這些發展商修造的一些燕屋農場，无论是半独立或独立的燕屋農場，如果他們想要的话他們自己建立它。

成功的和有经验的燕屋主知道在任何的情況下无论在那裡的區域將是无法分享所有很好的成功。 這是所有企业的事實， 10%的人将赚90%的金錢和90%的人份享其余的10%。 因此燕屋農場也是這樣的理論，发生故障失败的燕屋農場80-90%。

像去Setiawan， Krai， Pekan， T. Intan， Segamat，所有著名的燕屋農場地方，如果您认识那裡的本地人，他們將告诉您不是所有在鎮的燕屋農場是成功的。 或許從整排的商店只有少量的燕屋農場是成功的，其他还是仍然在奮鬥的期间。

因此通过瞭解這樣本機的理論，那些燕屋主根本不會无知的购買由那些發展商利用恐懼因素而投資入修建的商店。

我可以說100%購買這樣商店的根本不是当地的人。 他们有的是從外地像K.L， JB，等等。当地的人根本不會愚笨到購買它，因為他們知道其次会發生什麼。

特别是局外人的新手在沒有看見过燕子之前，当您带他们到像这样的地方遊覽，他們的眼睛將弹出来和立刻想要在那些區域附近擁有燕屋農場。

當有這樣的趨向，因此是不出奇的一些在偏僻的區域地产的价格是比在巴生谷昂貴的。

由於有了這樣的需求商店用来做燕屋農場而推擠了大廈和土地的價格。

趨向為那些對執行的恐懼將繼續，並且我肯定將有許多發展商利用這个机會来修建更多的大廈和公園。

大家有好燕屋!

Does It make Sense?

Does it make sense? Paying few hundred thousand Ringgit the only advantage is you can blast your Tweeters sound as loud as you like and no one cares. Other than that you gain nothing.

This is what you would get if you buy a property in a secluded area specially built for such purposes. Other than that you don’t get anything at all. Bear in mind the ground floor cannot be and will never be rented out as the location of the properties are at the secluded area.

Furthermore it is not for the purposes of business and commercialization other than for swiftlets to stay and make nests. What if in the even Swiftlets don’t stay and make nests in the unit you have bought…….?? Have you ever thought of that? I guess not!

If fact it is the trend now, developers are jumping in to the band wagon taking this opportunity and make as much money as they could. Can’t blame them they are all entrepreneurs who see this lucrative returns on the advantages of those ignorant newbie investors.

How these opportunities arise? Firstly it was due to enforcement that has been talked about since if I could remember when swiftlets farming existed (it never materialized anyway).

As usual fear is the best factor that triggers purchase just like Insurance. That is why most if not all Insurance companies are making tons of money. Entrepreneurs knew this very well therefore they are targeting this group of newbies or semi-newbies by providing security and licensing as a whole package.

Secondly, it is due to greed where on papers the developers promise certain returns and guarantee certain things. All projected nicely on papers for the next 5 years and so on in a conference room with Air-conditioner, drinks free flow, lunch and gifts. In reality it may not work this way.

Like I had always said successful farmers have very big baxxx they have no fear of what comes next as long it doesn’t cause harm to others therefore to them enforcement thingy comes secondary. Successful farmers would never go and buy shoplot unit or semi-Ds or Bungalow types of farms located in a secluded area which built by these entrepreneurs if they want they build it themselves.

Successful & experienced farmers knew very well in any situation there will never be all farms located in a same area would share the same success. This is the fact of any businesses, 10% of the people make 90% of the money and the 90% share the rest of the 10%. Swiftlet farming is not exempted from such theory therefore 80-90% failed.

Go to any places like Setiawan, Krai, Pekan, T. Intan,Segamat, you name it any town famous for swiftlet farming if you know the local community there who are into Swiftlet farming they will tell you not all the farms in the town are successful. Perhaps only few farms from the whole roll of shops converted into swiftlets farm made it the rest still struggling.

By understanding such theory therefore the local would never buy all these building built by these entrepreneurs who capitalize on the fear factor and the ignorance’s of those invested.

I could say 100% of those who purchased such building are not local. There are from out station like K.L , JB, and so on. The local won’t be stupid enough to buy it because they knew what is going to happen next.

Outsiders especially newbies who have not seen birds before, the moment you take them tour to places like the above their eyes would pop out and wanting to own a farm around those areas.

With such trend going on it is not surprised the price of builing in a secluded area of nowhere would be more expensive than one in the Klang valley.

Because of the demand for such building for swiftlet farming this has pushed the price of building and lands.

The trend of building farms for those who are fear of the enforcement would continue and I am sure there will be many entrepreneurs taking this opportunity to build such building and parks.

Good farming All!

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为什么独立燕屋農場是更难?

(我不会這样做。 肯定不会!)

(双层的土磚)

燕屋主要最可能便宜的就好像把橙的每一滴橙汁都极出来。 建筑商想要儘量节省費用，以便他能获得利润。 為建筑商越少材料越好因为每一塊磚都是费用。 它不可能是双方勝利的明確地一方面一定会吃亏。

明確地那會是燕屋主。 由于建筑商予先計算了費用，至于燕屋主他只可能計算燕子在燕屋農場完成了之。計算燕子的開始建筑商以收了90%的付款了。 因此誰在吃亏的一邊呢？

這是使用金錢作為測量工具的後果来測量在燕屋農場的成功。 的确，如果沒有95%至少也有80%想投資燕屋農場的那些人在运用這樣方法来測量成功的燕屋農場。

如果他的朋友建立了一间單立的燕屋農場在Rm 200k的費用，如果他可以建立了一间比这间少于Rm 200k 或許只用180k的他认为他已经成功了。 這是成功的第一步，大多数經常被认为是成功的結果是失敗的。

所以出故障的多数是獨立燕屋農場。許多人爭論，认为獨立燕屋農場是比较难吸引燕子与商店單位比较或者需要很長的时间才有窝。 我是完全不同意的。 如果它是適當地做着兩个都是相同的。

原因為什么商店的燕屋農場是更加容易成功，是因為商店是更容易控制内部 (屋内环境情况)和這些所有是被修建的燕屋農場，被設計的，被處理的，物質利用等等是有关的。

商店單位的墙壁的厚度、柱字射線的厚度等等是于標準的厚度，它必須依照當局不然就不会得到CF或锎建造标准的規格。

發展商修造商店為商業的目的而燕屋主修造獨立燕屋農場的目的就好像极橙汁一样。發展商根據建造标准遞交計劃，並且牆壁的厚度必須是依照到計劃否則是很难得到批准的。 平均牆壁的厚度是大约9-12英寸取决于修造的價值。 這在防热是有很大的幫助。

而獨立燕屋農場，燕屋主是沒有所谓的標準需要跟隨的。 因為只要它是依照他的預算建築的它將继续。 所以看到没有塗灰泥的牆壁，使用沙子磚仍然有接口等等的獨立燕屋農場是很普通的。最壞的是使用沙子磚和輕量級的磚。 這两個真正是谋殺燕屋農場的屋内环境。

我想知道為什麼一個人可以花費几十萬，但是當談到另外花費几千他們拒绝如此做。 这是燕屋主的誤解和悟性。 一些認為只要他們找到稍微有經驗在獨立燕屋農場的建筑商就好了，但是他們忘了(或許根本不知道)关于燕屋農場的測量、物質使用等等在燕屋農場是最重要的。

通常燕屋主會要求建筑商， 「老板，您修建了燕屋農場在…那里和那里，…請跟隨同一個設計」。 实际上現在这是普遍的做法。燕屋主忘記了建筑商所修建的燕屋農場是给他而不是给燕子住的。

不能責備建筑商，他的任务是修建大廈。 只要他的修建完成他的工作就是完成的。 對燕屋主来说他修建的是燕屋農場。 您看見他们兩個都有不同的目的。

一些争辩说，最便宜的方式来修造獨立燕屋農場將导致成功。 也有一些设法修造獨立燕屋農場在50k以下 (20x70， 2層樓的)。我們在這裡競爭誰最可能修建便宜的燕屋農場吗？ 明顯地您可以修造一间獨立燕屋農場(20x70,2層樓的) Rm30k， 60k， 80k， 100k， 150, 180k， 230k等等。 不要忘記您不是在這裡为修造最便宜的燕屋農場而得獎的。 我們在這裡所说得是成熟的收穫。 有时人是太雄心勃勃和失去了他們的方向。

这么多年，看过不少失败，非常失败和继续的失败那些燕屋主，也有看过那些非常成功擁有不少于5個燕屋農場每几個月平均有10kgs以上的收穫之後。 我發現清楚區別這2個小組的燕屋主之間是態度和個性。

成功燕屋主的小組是成實和有印象深刻個性的人。 那些失败燕屋主的個性是有些.......有句话中國人說的「他們走过的路，所有的草也会死掉」我認為我不應該进入这个话题。 我們恢复到燕屋農場。

一個人必须考慮到燕屋農場的大小，材料使用，設計，測量等等並且期望後果是利弊。 只要您考慮到这些我會說您的燕屋農場怎麼都不會归入失败燕屋農場的類別。 哀傷的真相，多少個燕屋主会考慮到这一点？ 或許只有20%。

大家有好燕屋!

需要更多的信息您可以打电话给James：012-3173811 .

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Why Standalone Farm is Harder?

(I won't do it this way. Definitely no!)

( double layer Clay bricks)

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The owner wants it cheapest as possible like squeezing an orange for its every drop. The contractor wants to save cost as much as possible so that he could make profit. For the contractor the least material the better as every each brick counts. It can’t be both side win definitely one side ended up losing.

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Definitely that would be the owner. Because the contractor had calculated the cost beforehand where as for the owner he could only count the birds after the farm has been completed. By this time the contractor would have collected 90% of the payment and the counting of birds’ only start. So who in on the losing side?

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This is the consequences of using money as a measurement tool to measure success in Swiftlet farming. Indeed if not 95% at least 80% of those who wanted to invest in Swiftlet Farming applied such method for measuring success.

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If his friend built a Stand alone at a cost of Rm 200k and if he could build one less than Rm 200k perhaps Rm 180k he considered he had succeeded. This is the first step of success, often than not the first step of success most of the time ended up fails later.

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That is why so many standalone farms failed. Many argued that standalone is hard to attract birds or takes a longer time to have nests compared to the shop lot unit. I totally disagree with it. Both are the same if it’s being done properly.

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The reason why shop lot farms are more successful it is because there are better in terms of internal control (Micro condition) and all these have to do with how the farms being constructed, designed, managed, material use and so on.

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The shop lot unit wall thickness, beam thickness, etc are of standard thickness as it has to conform to the specification of the building standard otherwise it wouldn’t get approval or Cf from the authority.

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Developers build shop lot with commercialize intention where as swiftlet farmers build standalone with the intention similar to squeezing an orange. Developers submit plan according to the building standards and the thickness of the wall has to be accordance to the plan otherwise it is hard to get approval. Averagely the thickness of the wall would be around 9-12 inches depends on the value of the build. This would help in insulation.

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Whereas for the standalone farms there is no standardization that the owners need to follow. As long its accordance to his budget then the construction will go ahead. Therefore it is common to see standalone farms having un-plastered walls, sand bricks laded with gaps, etc Worst still using sand brick and light weight brick. These 2 really kill the farm’s micro.

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I was wondering why one could spend over few hundred thousand and yet when it comes to additional of few thousand they refused to do so. It is a misconception and perception of the owners. Most would think that as long they could get a contractor that have some experiences in building standalone it would be good but they total forgotten (perhaps may not know at all) about the farm designs which involve certain measurement, material use, etc which are most important.

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Often Owners would ask the contractor, “ Tauke, you have built one farm near …where and where… please follow the same design”. In fact this is the common practice now. The owner forgotten that the contractor is constructing a build for him not a Swiftlet farm.

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Can’t blame the contractor, for him he is constructing a building. As long it is done his job is completed. To the owner he is building a swiftlet farm. You see both have different mission.

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Some would argue that the cheapest ways to build a standalone will lead to success. There are also some trying to build standalone below 50k (20x70, 2 storey). Are we here to compete who could build the cheapest farm? Obviously one could build a standalone (20x70,2 storey) for Rm 30k,60k, 80k,100k,150,180k,230k and so on. Don’t forget you are not here to run for the awards of cheapest farm ever build. We are here to ripe the harvest. Sometimes people are too ambitious and along the way the lost their directions.

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After so many years of meeting with so many farmers from those failed badly and continue to fail ones to those very successful ones who owned not less than 5 farms that have an average of harvest of 10kgs per months. I discovered there are clear cut differences in term of attitude and personality between these 2 groups of farmers.

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The successful group is down to earth person with impressive personality. While those failed ones theirs personalities are somewhat…….there is a Chinese saying “when they walked pass the green all grasses will die” I think I should not go into it. Let’s get back to swiftlet farming.

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If one has taken into consideration the size of the farm, the materials use, the design, the measurements and so on and anticipated what the consequences are the pros and cons. I would say not matter how your farm won’t fall into the category of failed farm. Sadly the truth, how many owners have considered this? Perhaps only 20% of them .

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Good Farming All!

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Need more Info may call James:012-3173811

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分成的重要性（飞行道路和路线）没有人会教您的!

(我參觀的許多失败的燕屋農場之一。 入口/门在中间。2年半的时间只有5个窝)

分成的目的在燕屋農場是用来創造更好的屋内环境。分成防止太大的空气流动。 它也幫助減少在燕屋農場的光密度。 你们也可以使用它来創造一個顺畅的飛行道路。

在您想要利用以上的好處，保證您知道如何和在哪裡應該安置分成。 這包括高度，寬度，長度等等。 如果它不正確地安置它將導致更多害處。

我看見許多失败的燕屋農場，其中一个錯誤是架設分成的地方並且使用分成的尺寸也是錯誤的。 這因而使燕屋農場里的燕子人口增長的缓慢，制約燕子飛行的道路，窝的成長也很慢，幼燕子的死等等。

這個常见的错误甚而是由那些久在燕屋農場的人所犯的。您可能明顯地看到如果您參觀燕屋農場，甚至在網络上的照片也可以看的到。 這些人不知道他們做什麼吗？ 如果他們不知道基本的燕子飛行道路，哪他們怎麼能为您修建一個成功的燕屋農場，如果您雇用他們做。

其中一個很好的基本例子是…，如果您有讀Negroho'博士的書 「養殖燕子在燕屋農場 (一位可敬的燕屋農場先驅)。 明顯地表明燕子飞行大约1-2 ft從牆壁以圓式和很少漫遊中间的部分。當這些所謂的專家架設分成的时候，他們仍然安置分成的門或出口(进路)在中間。 这使那些燕子很难操縱到分成的中心和燕子也許会猛擊到。 一旦這些燕子遇到困難在这區特别是幼燕子，他們就不會回來了。 如果其他燕屋農場提供更好的飛行道路那么所有的燕子將会移居到那裡。

圖片A，燕子很少飞行到中间的部分，他們总是飛行以圈子的形式。 所以在燕屋農場里多数被修造的窝是在牆壁的角落和在邊緣。 如果您觀察新的窝在新的燕屋農場形成的总是開始在飛行圈子邊緣的飛行路線。

通过瞭解飛行路線它將幫助您架設分成。 哀傷地說大多數，那些所謂有經驗的人对有關的这些也是有很少的知識。

圖片B，展示被架設的分成的中间有一個进路或門让燕子飛行通过。這是不正確的。因為它影響燕子的飛行路線使燕子很困難的飛行。 燕子需要转一个很尖的弯来飛行通过这道門而这不是他們的飛行路線。 這是一個常见的错误包括那些被称的专家。 結果成長很缓慢、燕子人口減少等等，結果变成失敗的燕屋農場。

我們刚看过圖片A，燕子很少飛行到中间部分，哪為什麼仍然安置分成在中間
圖片C，展示正确方式来安置分成的门應該在旁邊。 门的大小根據燕屋農場的設計變化。 有些燕屋農場的設計不需要安置分成。 由于在设计阶段期間，設計師已经考慮到屋内环境。燕屋農場的每一个部分都是互相影響的相互有關的。因此沒有需要分成。

這些是一个非常基础的知识如果要有成功的燕屋農場，但是仍然隨時間的推移有许多还是重複同一個差錯。 所以看到80%的失敗燕屋農場是沒有什么惊奇的。 即使您出席某些研討會，它仍然教您同一個錯误。

這是其中一個標準来創造完美的燕屋農場的屋内环境。 想像如果您是无法达到基本的標準，哪您如何去的更远呢 ？.......許多师傅不知道关于这些，因為它是相當技術性的，並且您需要瞭解許多燕子飛行的行為。 此外這也不是简单的。 當初我读Negro博士的書是几年前的时候。 我告訴了自己這是沒有道理的，一些非常成功的燕屋農場實際上也有同一條进路在中部。

当我进一步和十分地觀察和瞭解整體的概念，然後我明白了那些成功的燕屋農場應該可以做的更好的，如果他們在正確的地方安置了分成。

到此为止，现在只是1% 关于燕子的飛行道路，希望我將会寫更多关于这个在不久的將來，或許另外的99%。

最后，从不重複同一個差錯。 但是在燕屋農場里它是很正常地做不对的事，並且重複他們似乎是挑戰的一部分。

大家有好燕屋!

如果您想要知道更多您可以打电话给我 012-3173811

Farm Visiting

I will be in Kuatan and Mentakab on May 4 for farms visiting. Those who have sick Bh and unable to solve it may call me at 012-3173811. Good Farming!

The Importance of Partitioning ( Flying Route & Path). Nobody will teach you!

(one of the many failed farms I visited. The access way /door in the middle. 2 1/2 years with only 5 nests )

The purpose of partitioning in farm is to create a good Micro. Partition prevents the flow of air movement. It also helps to reduce light density in farm. One could also use partition to create a smooth flying path.

.Before you want to make use of the above to your advantage make sure you know how and where the partition should be placed. These included the high, width, length and so on. If it is done incorrectly it would cause more harm than good.

.I had seen many failed farms one of the problems facing by them is erecting the partition at the wrong place and using the wrong sizes of partitions. This restricts the flying path of birds in farm thus making population increase slow, slow nest growth, dead of young birds and so on.

.This common mistake was made even by those who have been long enough in swiftlets farming industry. You could see it clearly if you visit farms or even on pictures posted on the Web. Aren’t these people known what they are doing? They don’t even know the basic of Swiftlets flying path then how could they build a successful farm for you if you engage them to do.

.One of the basic good examples would be … if you read Dr. Negroho's book (respectable pioneer of swiftlet farming) “Breeding swiftlet in Farm House”. It is clearly indicated birds fly about 1-2 ft from walls in a circular manner and seldom roam the middle section .Yet when these so called expert erect partition s they still place the door or the exit (access way) is in the middle of the partition. This making it hard for the birds to maneuver to the centre of the partition and birds may bang on it. Once the birds encountered difficulty to access these section especially young birds they will never come back. If other farms provide better access in term of flying path then all birds will migrate there.

Picture A, shows birds rarely fly at the middle section as they always fly in a circle form. Therefore most nests that are built in farm are at the wall edges and at the sides. If you observe closely new nests formations in new farms always start at the flying route which is at the edges of the flying circle.

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By understanding the flying route it would help when erecting partitions. Sad to say most if not all so called experience people in this field have little knowledge about this.

Picture B shows the partition erected has an access way/door in the middle for birds to fly thru. This is no correct as it affects the flying route of the birds making flying difficult. Birds need to take a sharper turn in order to fly thru the door in the middle which is not their flying route. This is a common mistake made by many that included so call experts. The results slow growth, decrease population, etc ended up fail farm.

As we look at Picture A, birds rarely fly at the middle section then why one still place the access way/door in the middle of the partition

Picture C, shows the correct way the access way/door should be placed at the side. The size varies according to the design of the farm. Some farms designs do not require partition to be erected. Because during designing stage the designer has taken into consideration of the Micro. So every sections of the farm is inter related that affect one another .With this in mind the partitioning is not required.

.These are the very basic knowledge of creating a good and successful swiflets farm and yet as time goes by there are thousand farms repeating the same mistake over and over again. Therefore it is not surprised to see failed farms stood at 80% fail. Even if you attend certain seminars it still teaches you the same mistake.

.This is just one out of hundred of criteria of creative a good macro for Swiftlet farm. Imagine if you can’t even get the basic right then how could you go futher?.......Many Sifus didn’t know about this because it’s quite technical and it needs lots of understanding in Swiftlet flying behaviors. Furthermore it is not easy. When I first read about Dr. Negro’s book many years ago. I told myself this doesn’t make sense in fact some very successful farms are having the same access way in the middle.

.As I observed further and thoroughly understand the whole concept then I realized those successful farms should have done even better if they had placed the partition at the correct place.

.That’s all for now on 1% of Swiftlet flying path, hopefully I shall write more about it in near future, perhaps the other 99%.

.Lastly never repeat the same mistake twice. But in Swiftlet farming it is norm to do things wrongly and repeating them seem to be part of the challenges.

.Good Farming All!

If you want to know more you may James ; 012-3173811

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内部声音的重要性

(在高音揚聲器附近被修造的窝)

(催眠狀態在工作的，很快那裡將会有修造的窝在高音揚聲器上面)

(窝被修造在高音揚聲器的頂部)

(一隻幼燕子无法抵抗好的內部聲音)

如我總是說您是需要敏銳的，因為它將帮助您成为一位更好的燕屋主。

我說多數會認為內部聲音不是好象外部聲音一样重要。 我肯定一些老的朋友會勸告不要改變內部聲音或留下它照原本一样。 只會鼓勵週期性地改變外部的聲音。

我肯定許多未改變他們的內部聲音或还是一样，不像他們為他們的外部聲音时常做改變。 我不可能責備他們，对他们来说內部聲音不是像外部聲音一样可以立即看到变动。 因为改變外部聲音的时候，如果他們找到正确的聲音許多燕子將來玩。 这样他们可以判斷作用…它是一個立即眼睛可以判斷的确定，但是燕子的計數是否可靠？

我們在這裡不是為了有窝的燕屋農場吗？ 或者我們僅僅在這裡是為了有燕子來玩的興奮？ 我想燕屋主全部應該问自己這個問題吧。

通过我在燕屋農場的經驗， 燕子花费在屋內部听聲音的时间比在外部听聲音的时间更多。 外部聲音吸引他們來，並且爾後它是所有關於內部聲音。 一旦燕子进入入口洞，並且在流動區域，接下来的工作最重要的是內部聲音。 所以，您將看見有许多燕子粪在內部的高音揚聲器之下。 接下来的是看见燕子粪得累计和燕窝的形成，因此，從這里我們是否可以得到结论內部聲音是比外部聲音重要呢？除非我們在這裡只是要看見燕子而不是想要有燕窝。

我猜測這是最少談或寫的話提在那些人賣外部和內部聲音的之中。 或許這是由於它的市場推動的需求，顧客想要供應商供應他們，就是那么简单。 顧客想要看到燕子供應商讓他們看燕子。

或許他們对內部聲音和它的內容的重要性是一無所知的。 在內部聲音應該記錄和包括什麼？多少個熱衷對夥伴的母燕子的聲音應該是包括在里面的？ 多少个小燕子的低和高的熱衷聲音的类型？ 什麼是必需的頻率？ (內部合理的頻率與外部合理的頻率是不同的)等等......所有這些將辯解好的內部聲音。

通常我們會看見许多成熟的小燕子準備交配的，將垂懸在內部高音揚聲器。 它们是那么的被聲音佔據心思(如果您是有正確和正确的聲音)他們自然的天性影響他們熱衷的要交配和做窝。 所以那就是为什么多數，在新的燕屋農場如果不是所有新窝的形成是在高音揚聲器的頂部，在高音揚聲器的附近，在高音揚聲器上面等等。 它為什麼沒有在外部的高音揚聲器上做窝？ 想想。

這明顯地表明好的內部聲音是極端在燕屋農場幫助快速的窝成長。 我們不是在談論那些您可以從朋友，顧問，甚至通过網络得到的那些普通的內部聲音。

如果您使用好的外部聲音，确定您的內部聲音是兩倍比外部聲音好的，否則您只是看見許多燕子，但是不是窝的形成。

我參觀了不計其數失败的燕屋農場，我注意到的一件事是許多燕屋農場有分享同一內部聲音的。 或許他们是從同一個人那裡购買的。 沒有獨特，並且經常聲音的錄音質量是恶劣的。

更壞的是，當被大量的高音揚聲器播出，只有聽見的聲音全部都是畸變聲音。 越多的高音揚聲器、母燕子的聲音，小燕子的聲音等等不能明顯地被聽見，可以被聽見的純碎是大聲罢了。 要區别畸變和大聲之间是不容易的。 要區别他們您需要瞭解燕子的录音頻率。

有一次我被邀請去參觀Kuantan的燕屋農場(對此我有在早先的文章提到)。 有超过300 部高音揚聲器在一层20x70ft的燕屋農場。 燕屋主指出所謂的燕子声音專家勸告他安裝越多的高音揚聲器越好。 若可能每一方尺應該有一臺高音揚聲器。 我是被吓倒的。

我勸告他減少他們至少70%和在2个月后，新的燕子粪有大量的增加。 增加高音揚聲器的数量，增加燕屋農場的数量，增加AMP的数量等等不包正您一定会是一个成功的燕屋主？确实得答復是不!

內部聲音的內容才是最重要的。 还有更多的东西是您需要學习的.....

我做着一些新的內部聲音来提高窝成長。 感興趣的那些人可以大电话给我： 012-3173811.

希望以上將可以給關於內部聲音的一些想法。大家有好燕屋!。